Gold - Mystery - Murder - Plunder - How much Gold is really out there?

[Bottomfeeder]

I think you would probably find it in "pinky rings" around the world.....

[onlooker]

I don`t think anyone can ask these architects, engineers, and scientists to suspend their beliefs in the sciences.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_tf25lx_3o

http://www.archive.org/details/911revisited

As for the missing gold, I can now see that some people would try to get the gold back into their financial system. 

[sidewinder]

Onlooker,

   All I can saw is Wow .. Have never seen those videos.  Really make you pause and think. 

[onlooker]

Here is a detailed interesting article on Yamashita’s Gold that belongs in this section.

See:  Paul Mylchreest’s Thunder Road Report dated 15th October 2009 with the title Gold market-accident waiting to happen or crime scene? Don’t shoot the messenger.

http://economicedge.blogspot.com/2009/10/paul-mylchreest-thunder-road-report.html

[onlooker]

Here are some interesting articles linking plundered gold and WTC.

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People fighting over gold during the WTC clean up stage as according to the following article:

CNN SATURDAY MORNING NEWS  aired November 3, 2001 

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.
MARTIN SAVIDGE, CNN ANCHOR: Five New York police officers were hurt, 12 people arrested after firefighters clashed with police at Ground Zero. Misdemeanor charges were filed early this morning against several of those firefighters.

CNN's Maria Hinojosa was covering the protest when the brawl broke out.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

MARIA HINOJOSA, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): It was an unsettling image: the new heroes of New York suddenly turned against each other. Police arresting protesting firefighters and firefighters fighting back. A total of 12 firefighters arrested, five police injured, and emotions raw to the bone.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Well, we want to go in there. And whatever it takes, we want to find our friends.

HINOJOSA: The dispute erupted over Mayor Giuliani's decision to reduce the number of firefighters recovering bodies at the World Trade Center site.

The reason, said the mayor, to protect those working on a site that is a crime scene, a disaster area, but also a burial ground. But for the firefighters, the scaling back is being taken as a dis, especially coming after workers pulled millions of dollars worth of missing gold and silver from the rubble.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This isn't about safety, you're right. It's about money. It's all about the money. (UNINTELLIGIBLE) found their gold and now they're done.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yeah!

See:  http://edition.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0111/03/smn.27.html

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Missing Gold

A King's Ransom in Precious Metals Seems to Have Disappeared

See:  http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/evidence/gold.html

[sidewinder]

I guess we will never know what went on in regards to the bullion stored beneath WTC.

Of course this is fodder for the conspiracy theories.  Still something is just not right with the whole thing and the aftermath. 

Giuliani calling it a crime scene is interesting.  Has there ever been a real forensic criminal investigation of this heinous act?  They removed so much material almost instantly as to beg the question of chain of custody of evidence.  A crime scene this large would have take quite some time to inspect but the trucks were there hauling off stuff immediately. 

The 9-11 commission similar to the Warren commission is not a criminal investigation.   Again in history political involvement in a crime produce results that add more questions than answers. But what else do you expect from this government?

[onlooker]

Sidewinder:

The 9-11 commission similar to the Warren commission is not a criminal investigation.   Again in history political involvement in a crime produce results that add more questions than answers. But what else do you expect from this government?

In the middle of 2009, it was announced that external auditors were investigating an "unreconciled difference" in the financial accounting of the Royal Canadian Mint's precious-metals.  There was a suspected gold heist.

See:

http://www.ottawacitizen.com/missing+from+Royal+Canadian+Mint+Deloitte/1743823/story.html

The Canadian government was alarmed about this finding.  The Royal Canadian Mounted Police were called in to investigate.  In late 2009, the missing millions mystery was solved by the RCMP.

See:  http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/284309

Therefore, I note that in Canada, generally speaking, when there is a suspected crime scene, it gets investigated, and hopefully solved.  I cannot say the same for American.

It seems to me that when crime scenes (not just the ones related to gold) are linked to the American government in some way, then they get dropped or forgotten or ignored or squashed.   As a result, there are more and more American conspiracy stories, more unsolved mysteries, more toothless and expensive commissioner hearings. 

And sadly, like you say - But what else do you expect from this government? 


 

[sidewinder]

Hell, we don't even know what's in fort Knox Onlooker. The last physical audit was when Eisenhower was president.  The government says the IG performs an annual audit but they are not authorized access to the vaults.  How does that work.  Meanwhile we just accept what the government says.  Geeeeezzz it just makes my head spin. 

[MetalMeister]

I did notice that the Canadian review cost $1.3 million.  That's a pretty big figure.

Where I store my metal, that I have not taken personal possession of, they do a review every month.  I get charged a storage fee based on number of ounces and the averaged price per ounce.

[sidewinder]

Just wondering, if Dines opened up a gold storage pit would you let him store your nuggets?

[sidewinder]

Looking at the gold chart looks like looking at the S&P futures chart, moving averages, Stochs and price like twins.   How about that?

[onlooker]

YC:

Onlooker quote:

It seems to me that when crime scenes (not just the ones related to gold) are linked to the American government in some way, then they get dropped or forgotten or ignored or squashed.   As a result, there are more and more American conspiracy stories, more unsolved mysteries, more toothless and expensive commissioner hearings.

YC quote:

I did notice that the Canadian review cost $1.3 million.  That's a pretty big figure.

YC, you got eagle eyes.  Yes, you are quite right that $1.3 million cdn is a LARGE figure for an in-depth investigation at the Royal Canadian Mint.   The Canadian taxpayers will be the ones paying for it.

There are other cases of the Canadian government not bothering to limit its spending on inquiries.

One such case is the excessive spending on the Canuck scandal between former Prime Minister Brian Mulroney and German-Canadian businessman Karlheinz Schreiber over 300,000 Canadian dollars (about 303,000 U.S.).

See:  http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1P2-11328230.html

By the middle of 2009, the total cost of the inquiry was about $16 million cdn!  And the Canadian taxpayers will be picking up the tab for the inquiry.   

Taxpayers will cover $2 million-worth of the legal tab that Brian Mulroney has accumulated during proceedings at the Oliphant inquiry, according to The Canadian Press.

The costs are in addition to the previously reported $14-million budget for the inquiry into the former prime minister's business dealings with Karlheinz Schreiber

See:    http://toronto.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20090520/mulroney_oliphant_090520/20090520/?hub=TorontoNewHome

So, it is true that in comparison to America, conspiracy stories, and unsolved mysteries are practically non-existent in Canada.  But just like in America, the Canadian government have been known to be ridiculously wasteful in spending taxpayers’ money.   

[MetalMeister]

Yeah, I just looked at it like they spend 10% to find the missing 90%.

That sounds good at first, doesn't it?

Then you realize the bottom line of they didn't find 100% of the $15.5 million...

Well, guess it cost something since they had a consultant come in to find the 100%, right?

Question is, so what are you Canadians keeping the mint employees on for?

They obviously can't count.

Don't they fire anybody in Canada...?

[sidewinder]

No they got so much money up there they just leave the slag stuck in crevices in machinery.  Gold and silver all over the place. 

If that were in America, we not only would hired the consultants but the findings would get lawyers involved for stress caused and rights of employees suffering the stigma of suspicion.

Then, the congress would appoint a commission to investigate the waste which as we know would cost a fortune and lead to the appoint of a Czar and another new department in government to regulate something and the bill would contain 2 billion in earmarks for politicians favorite projects.

[onlooker]

Remember John Perkins, author of Confessions of an Economic Hit Man?

See: 

John Perkins
Confessions of an Economic Hit Man

http://www.wanttoknow.info/johnperkinseconomichitman

Mr. John Perkins has basically been saying that multinational companies have been making deals with nations to borrow money. 

The nation borrowing can’t really afford to repay the loans, and the multinational company then cut a deal, which, of course, further enhances their own wealth.

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Call me crazy, but did modern day banksters just carry out a legitimate gold heist in broad day in front of the whole world with an insider hitman, a former Goldman Sachs Alum?   

Mr. Petros Christodoulou is a former Goldman Sachs Alum.

See:

Mr Christodoulou held various positions in global markets at Credit Suisse, Goldman Sachs and JPMorgan Chase before joining the National Bank of Greece in 1998. He is expected to take up the position immediately.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x7755262

Mr. Petros Christodoulou is the current chief for Greece’s debt management agency.

See: 

Greece picks new chief for debt management agency
Feb 19, 2010

Greece appointed commercial banker Petros Christodoulou as the new chief of its Public Debt Management Agency (PDMA) as it fights a debt crisis that has sent jitters around the euro zone.

http://www.moneycontrol.com/news-topic/petros-christodoulou/

Here's a summary of a gold heist

See: 

Projected PIIGS Pillage: 3233.5 Tons Of Gold To Be Confiscated By Insolvent European Banks
Submitted by Tyler Durden

02/23/2012

While hardly discussed broadly in the mainstream media, the top news of the past 24 hours without doubt is that in addition to losing its fiscal sovereignty, and numerous other things, the Greek population is about to lose its gold in a perfectly legitimate fashion, following amendments to the country's constitution by unelected banker technocrats, who will make it legal for Greek creditors - read insolvent European banks - to plunder the Greek gold which at last check amounts to 111.6 tonnes according to the WGC. And so we come full circle to what the ultimate goal of banker intervention in the European periphery is - nothing short of full gold confiscation.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/projected-piigs-pillage-32335-tons-gold-be-confiscated-insolvent-european-banks

When "insolvent European banks" wrap their hands on the Greek people's gold, they are no longer insolvent.  Brillant.