Osama may you rest in Hell

[sidewinder]

Finally got the bastard

[sidewinder]

Or maybe they got him.   .......

With having had a look at the new birth certificate which I downloaded from the White House web site I must say that the thing looks "jacked up" and I am not even an expert.  Not need to go into all the detail and reasons I say this as the internet is now full of pages as to why this certificate is fake but just another reason not to believe anything coming out of Washington and now the White House has really screwed up if you ask me. 

Firstly, I can't believe anybody is remotely that stupid to post something as important as that certificate and post such a third rate photoshop job expecting not to be found out.  Which leads to more questions all similar to the question that started all this.  Why not just show the damn thing and be done with it.  But to put something like this on the net and call it the original long form is stupid.

If the white house cant get a forged document any better that this then that staff has no business being there.  Which if the people fell for that then hey, lets tell them we got Bin Laden. 

I have heard all the news channels and all the hoopla today but broken down to facts all I really know is Obama said so.  I have not heard anything for anyone in the operation, have seen no photos of bodies or even maybe people in abbottbad or where ever this is supposed to have happened.

Waiting for jacked up photos any hour now.  Horrible when you don't know what to believe from government.   

[sunseeker]

Finally got the bastard

At last.

I have never promised anything but blood, tears, toil, and sweat. Now, however,

The bright gleam has caught the helmets of our soldiers, and warmed and cheered all our hearts.

Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. but it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning.

Winston Churchill.

[sunseeker]

Hi SW

The body.
Please... Do not open if you feel that it may cause offence...

http://space.chariweb.com/2011/05/osama-bin-laden-killed-id-confirmed-by.html

DNA testing confirmed that it was bin Laden, sources told ABC News.

It's some feat to get a DNA test done under such conditions and in such a short space of time.

Osama bin Laden dead, body buried at sea.....

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics/nation/osama-bin-laden-dead-body-buried-at-sea-report/articleshow/8142077.cms

That in itself may cause controversy....

http://www.seaservices.com/Muslim.htm

 I'm unfamiliar with Muslim burial practice but it sounds  to me as though a burial at sea should only carried out as a last resort.....

I just hope that they've dotted all the i's and crossed all the t's on this one.

No conspiracy. No cause for doubt.

[sidewinder]

That photos all jacked up.


Here we go....................................

[onlooker]

Will killing Osama kill the movement he inspired?

May 2, 2011

Bin Laden was more of a symbol than anything else, said Qaribut Ustad Saeed, a long-time member of the Hezb-e-Islami rebel group led by Gulbuddin Hekmatyar, whom the U.S. has labeled a terrorist. Saeed is currently a member of the Afghan High Peace Council set up to try to negotiate a peace settlement with the Taliban. Bin Laden's loss will be an inspirational one, rather than an operational one, he said.

"Osama bin Laden became a symbol and inspiration for the young Muslim extremists," he said. But the group has expanded into a worldwide movement that is now bigger than bin Laden," he said.

Even if the U.S. manages to find and kill al-Zawahiri, whose last-known sighting was in Peshawar in 2003, it won't mean the end of al-Qaida. Like Hamas and Hezbollah who have seen their leaders eliminated, al-Qaida will probably continue to exist, terrorism experts say.

Within hours of bin Laden's death, for instance, members of groups affiliated with the al-Qaida-linked Haqqani network in Pakistan were already promising that the day-to-day mission on the ground would not change.

http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/05/02/2196542/will-killing-osama-kill-the-movement.html


No.

[MetalMeister]

Yeah, and the really interesting part is he may have been just a small player in the 9/11 hijackings...

http://www.ae911truth.org/

http://drjudywood.com/

We should get the real culprits, George Bush, Bill Clinton, HW Bush, and their Bilderberger buddies, and all their hired help at the CIA who were responsible for the world trade ceter take down  

[sidewinder]

I've been looking for this damn compound on Google earth for the las couple hours.  Finally found what i think is the location. It is right under the nose of the Pakistan Military Academy  LOL.

See my blog for pictures and coordinates.
 http://sidewindersview.blogspot.com/2011/05/osama-bin-laden-death-house.html

Yea I know, I know ... I haven't been posting there much but really have been busy. 

[onlooker]

MM’s quote:

We should get the real culprits, George Bush, Bill Clinton, HW Bush, and their Bilderberger buddies, and all their hired help at the CIA who were responsible for the world trade ceter take down

~   ~   ~

MM:

I agree.

Why?  Because I still believe that WTC was a demolition job.  And because the US government is not able to explained away this event to me and other scientists, construction experts, architects. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmMokSdRGmw

[sidewinder]

SS, here's how someone put the "Death photo" together.  

Warning as above .......  Don't open this link is photo's of dead people offend.

http://twitpic.com/4se5vc

I think this is the original Osama portion of the fake.
This photo ... rotate, resize and it is a perfect match for the lower half of the dead guy photo.

http://thewashingtonroast.com/osama-bin-laden-supports-pat-down-protest

[Croaker]

Where did the photo in question come from? Did Uncle Sam release it or did it come from somewhere else. I highly doubt that the US Government would release a photo that could be called into question in less then 24 hours.  Is he dead, I do not know. I was not there. But hold on to your horses, I am sure more video, pictures, etc... are forthcoming.

[MetalMeister]

What I want to know is it seems all recent and even 10+ years out photos of OBL (Obama, Barack Light) have a beard with a lot of gray hair.

But in the photo above, there does not seem to be much, hardly any gray?

Is this Saudi Arabian using Grecian Formula???

 

[sidewinder]

To my knowledge the government has not released any photos of the body as yet.

additionally anyone involved in the raid is far more disciplined and I hardly think any of those guys would let anything out without official approval.  To do so would certainly be career ending not to mention possible punishment.

I have only seen this doctored up photo and you can clearly see from the two original photos how it was done and no well if I may add. 

I think some photos will be forthcoming from official sources if for no other reason than public questions. 

Personally, I think the raid took place and I think they killed him.  The raid certainly took place because I saw some internet traffic that was entered at the precise time the raid went down from a candidate at the PMA Pakistan Military Academy located only a hundred or so meters from the compound.  He said that something was going on because he could hear the helicopters.  Then he posted that he heard an explosion and there was a fire nearby.  He assumed the Pakistani Army was doing some exercise.  Then someone else there said it was an army helicopter down and one of the crew was taken to the local hospital but the police and army had the area cordoned off and they could not get close.  So it sound as though even the military, the military students and the locals were very confused all during this operation and basically did not interfere. Given this I feel certain that a raid took place for sure.  I see no reason to make up a story about killing UBL as should that be not true he would surely put out a video or pop up somewhere. 

At some point we will get a real photo just like we did when they popped Che Guevara.   Would be interesting to know all the operational details but for security, it will be years from now coming out as to the actual mechanics of the operations.  Like who shot him and what actually happened we may never know.   I’m sure there were a couple of Agency “Case officers” along to make certain of ID and mission requirements were carried out.   

[sunseeker]

Al Qaida confirms bin Laden's death...
http://news.uk.msn.com/world/articles.aspx?cp-documentid=157332524

"Soon, God willing, their happiness will turn to sadness," it said, "their blood will be mingled with their tears."

In the statement, al Qaida also called on the people of Pakistan - "where Sheik Osama was killed" - to rise up in revolt against its leaders.

Only to be expected I suppose.........

Still, if the intelligence gathered as a result targets other people then that will ultimately prove a much more important than the death of Bin Laden.

I know that it would have been a “hot potato” but Bin Laden alive, fairly tried, and if convicted, executed would have been justice. What has happened seems to me to be no more than a political assassination.


To quote from one of my previous posts.........

http://buy-high-sell-higher.com/forum/general-discussion/martin-armstrong-t1015.0.html;msg15149#msg15149

A series of rights not as a product of their class, race, educational background, or their wealth, but because they are men.

Any government that disrespects those rights is illegitimate and should be overthrown.

The representatives of the French people believe that ignorance neglect or contempt of the rights of man are the sole cause of public calamities and of corruption of governments.

Once you have defined the rights of man you can then build a government that protects them and that will be a better government than what has gone before.

IMO........
Justice not only done but seen to be done on a fair and equal basis. When you start to be selective and administer summery justice then ultimately the rights of the innocent individuals will be eroded too. 

ATB 

[sidewinder]

This is an interesting article considering my CIA/Oval Office theory. 

http://socyberty.com/issues/white-house-insider-obama-hesitated-panetta-issued-order-to-kill-osama-bin-laden/

Doesn't sound all that far fetched to me actually, considering Obama WAS just off the golf course in and just in time to view everything from the situation room. 

Oh, in case you begin to wonder "Who's Valerie Jarrett"  here is a good start on the answer.

http://michellemalkin.com/2009/07/27/what-the-nyts-8100-word-valerie-jarrett-profile-didnt-tell-you/
 I can totally understand why this woman would be considered a complete outsider in the intelligence/military community.  I would be reluctant to tell her "what's for dinner" much less anything of significant intel importance.