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« Reply #15 on: October 05, 2009, 06:45:15 PM »

Hi Uboat

The PPT Team? Is this something I should know about?




Not everyone appreciates my quirky sense of humour.
Thanks.
It’s so quiet around here today. I thought it was a very good day today. Did I miss something?
It’s probably only a time difference thing.
Goodnight everyone.
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« Reply #16 on: October 05, 2009, 10:28:42 PM »

Sunseeker, very funny!  Not the end of the world yet when we can still laugh!
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« Reply #17 on: October 05, 2009, 11:52:47 PM »

thoughts, fellas?

So nice alarmist article today top link on Drudge Report:

Dollar Soon to be in the Shitter
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/the-demise-of-the-dollar-1798175.html


Now, as far as gold goes... if it becomes traded more widely by countries, using it for currency as a bridge to this new currency basket, rather than the dollar, won't that work to actually lower/stabilize the value of gold rather than make it skyrocket??

Now of course gold may skyrocket against the dollar... but that's only because the dollar would fall through the floor... no?  In which case you could also argue that investing in Yen or Reals or Aussie dollars or whatever would be just as wise as investing in gold.  Basically anything other than the dollar or Euro.  And I would think anything that is most easily convertible to usable currency would be the way to go... which to me is not gold.

Appreciate your thoughts as always...
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« Reply #18 on: October 05, 2009, 11:57:54 PM »

SS I see you visited Yellowcaked's Summer home/Gold stash.   Grin

After all politicians need a secure place.
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« Reply #19 on: October 06, 2009, 12:44:39 AM »

what the bunker looked like 64 years ago SS


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« Reply #20 on: October 06, 2009, 04:27:25 AM »

Now, as far as gold goes... if it becomes traded more widely by countries, using it for currency as a bridge to this new currency basket, rather than the dollar, won't that work to actually lower/stabilize the value of gold rather than make it skyrocket??

Now of course gold may skyrocket against the dollar... but that's only because the dollar would fall through the floor... no?  In which case you could also argue that investing in Yen or Reals or Aussie dollars or whatever would be just as wise as investing in gold.  Basically anything other than the dollar or Euro.  And I would think anything that is most easily convertible to usable currency would be the way to go... which to me is not gold.

During the G20 summit there was an emphasis on stable currency relationships, countries don’t like rapid moves in either direction as this would destabilize their import/export trading and domestic prices. The same seems to apply to gold, a steep increase would signal instability and weakness of major currencies, like the Dollar or Euro, and would reduce its use for jewelry (India) and other applications.

If you believe in the demise of the US dollar than alternative currencies such as the Yen, Real, Aussie and Canadian dollar would be good investments as well as their commodities, and probably bring better returns than gold. My gold stocks have underperformed compared to copper and other investments this year.
I anticipate only gradual growth in the price of gold due to the political interference, unless rapid inflation breaks the controls.
Even in times of international crisis the markets seem to revert to the dollar rather than gold. Nevertheless, I will keep some gold stocks, just in case….     
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« Reply #21 on: October 06, 2009, 04:51:23 AM »

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Now of course gold may skyrocket against the dollar... but that's only because the dollar would fall through the floor... no?  In which case you could also argue that investing in Yen or Reals or Aussie dollars or whatever would be just as wise as investing in gold.


I have been thinking along those same lines myself.
Diversification. Diversification.

Hi Uboat. You slipped in your post just before I got in.

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I hear that he’s eyeing up a new residence now. Fort Knox!!! LOL
 
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« Reply #22 on: October 06, 2009, 06:51:13 AM »

3j....yep.  Anything US$ denominated goes up as a result.
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« Reply #23 on: October 06, 2009, 07:02:40 AM »

I had to nip out with Mrs SS shopping.

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Yen or Reals or Aussie dollars

loonie?

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Es war der Führerbunker. Natürlich.

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« Reply #24 on: October 06, 2009, 09:49:03 AM »

SS.....I will take the Aussie's.

Look at the 20 year charts vs. the US dollar, crazy.
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« Reply #25 on: October 06, 2009, 10:56:59 AM »



Gold. We have lift off.



Hank Paulson found to be behind gold suppression.
The plunger seems to have broken.

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« Reply #26 on: October 06, 2009, 11:10:41 AM »

Yep SS....Looking good.  I think we need to see it hold above 1030 here for a couple of days.

I have been burned too many times buying breakouts, because I didn't wait for them to be sustained moves. Sad

I am currently watching Goldfields (NYSE:GFI), which today passed its all time high at 15, rising to 15.06 and falling back below resistance.  I am looking to buy a half position here though after we get past some of the euphoria. Smiley
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« Reply #27 on: October 06, 2009, 11:14:09 AM »

Hi BF

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SS.....I will take the Aussie's.

Look at the 20 year charts vs. the US dollar, crazy.

True.
"Past performance is not indicative of future performance."
As you know.

I wouldn’t discount the LOONIE. Both countries are commodity rich, but I see and hear of more and more climate change problems year on year in part of the world. Agriculture is becoming more and more important. Climate change will cause crop failures. Canada is in a better position globally to cope with that.

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« Reply #28 on: October 06, 2009, 11:21:14 AM »

Hi BF
I don’t need to add to my gold positions because I did what I always do and that’s start building from the end of July onwards. Just enjoying the ride now.
I have enough cash on the sidelines. Copper will be coming into play soon.

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« Reply #29 on: October 06, 2009, 11:41:16 AM »

Good job SS.....I like the Loonie too, and was frankly surprised that it got hit the way it did during the credit crisis.  Their banks seemed to behaved pretty responsibly, so I don't get that one.  Maybe its because the Canadian economy is so tied to the US consumer.  The Aussie dollar got hit too.  Pretty amazing that the dollar went up really.  Liquidity I guess.

You are absolutely right too regarding the climate in Aussieland and its impact on crops.  I also get a bit scared about the Aussie government policies, although we tend to fear what we don't understand, which could be a big part of it for me.

I just like em more I think because of the Asia/India growth story more than Canada.  Probably an unsupportable bias. Smiley
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