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« Reply #15 on: May 05, 2009, 06:01:11 PM »

Hi BF,

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Peter....I use this site weekly to look at all commodities of interest.

http://futures.tradingcharts.com/menu.html

Looks a very interesting site. I have taken note, and I will give it a closer look when I get back home. Thanks for sharing that.

Sorry must go.
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« Reply #16 on: May 05, 2009, 09:35:27 PM »

Ux U3O8 Prices  Update

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« Reply #17 on: May 05, 2009, 11:24:04 PM »

Bad news ...

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GLOBAL MARKETS-Stocks tumble, yen rises on Bank of America
6/05/2009 1:04:02 PM

http://money.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=810330

* Source says Bank of America needs $34 bln in capital

* Equities fall, yen rises as stress test uncertainty builds

* Risk rally on pause but may not be dead

By Kevin Plumberg and Dan Burns

HONG KONG, May 6 (Reuters) - Stocks slid and the yen rose on Wednesday after news Bank of America needs $34 billion in fresh capital, sending shivers through investors ahead of official results of stress tests on U.S. banks due for release on Thursday.

U.S. S&P 500 futures were down 1 percent, indicating a lower market open later in the day on Wall Street, after a source familiar with the government test results on 19 banks told Reuters that Bank of America has been deemed to have additional capital needs worth nearly half its current market cap of $69.4 billion.

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GM details plans to wipe out current shareholders

http://www.reuters.com/article/businessNews/idUSTRE54471X20090505?feedType=RSS&feedName=businessNews

GM shares closed on Tuesday at $1.85 on the New York Stock Exchange. The stock would be worth just over 1 cent if the first phase of GM's restructuring moves forward as described.


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« Reply #18 on: May 06, 2009, 12:05:16 AM »

FAS and FAZ price declines...

These 3x ETFs both were initially offered at >60, but both are now below 15 (FAZ well below). I think this may have been discussed before but I couldn't locate it in the threads. If they move inversely wouldn't you expect one to be sky high and the other rock bottom?

I am trying to figure out a buy and holdish stock for a daily or weekly decline -- trying to decide between faz and qid.

Thanks!
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« Reply #19 on: May 06, 2009, 06:12:37 AM »

hey John... yes the topic of price decay on the 3X ETFs has been discussed here a lot.  You can also check out google boards, a ton of blogs on the subject, and many more sources.  The general consensus is that you should NEVER hold the 3X ETFS (FAS/Z, TNA, etc.) for more than a few weeks... unless you are in the middle of a MAJOR swing up or down.  Otherwise price decay will just eat away at the stock value and you may actually end up losing money even if you are on the right side of the trade.

Just do a comparison of XLF and FAZ or FAS (at the same price for XLF) over the past year and you will see what I mean...

So, they should be fine for a couple weeks during a big move, but more than that you are risking losing.  The 2X etfs might be a bit better if you want to hold longer... just my opinion, DYODD, WTFDIK, etc. Smiley



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Peter... that bad news didn't last long... overseas markets are already back up strongly overnight.  Looks like nobody cares about any stress tests... euphoria reigns supreme!!!  hooooray buy buy buy!!!

I'm so bitter...  Embarrassed
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« Reply #20 on: May 06, 2009, 10:37:40 AM »

Invitation:

If one wants to sharpen one's investment edge with paper money, one can join with us to this stock game:  FMMF

http://simulator.investopedia.com/Game/ListGames.aspx?type=Search&item=fmmf&sc=1&scur=USD

where one can long and short stocks, as well as trade options.

At present my simulator portfolio has just got a double gain:

http://simulator.investopedia.com/Ranking/ViewPortfolio.aspx?UserID=1250353&GameID=98733

All the best.

Peter
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« Reply #21 on: May 06, 2009, 04:47:40 PM »

Today is a very choppy day.  SPX closes with a hanging man candlestick, and numerous leading stocks show an interim top on their charts.  The TA indicates an interim top for the market, IMHO.

Today, the best performing sectors are financial and energy, and financial sector closes with an even finally YTD. 

Tomorrow, Bank stress results will be released in the afternoon.  It is probably a very choppy trading session too.
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« Reply #22 on: May 06, 2009, 05:43:57 PM »

david pescod on Market:

Is this getting out of hand? We seem to have gone from one extreme to another...the biggest market crash in history to in the last 5 or 6 weeks the biggest rally in history.  Just a few weeks ago we saw records set because all of a sudden there was more cash sitting on the sidelines than there was
value in the stock markets in North America.  One gets the feeling on a day like today that all that cash wants to get back in the market…now that we have already had the rally!

Things today just didn’t make sense as some of the biggest banks in the United States that have been most beaten up mentioned that they need 10-30 billion dollars in additional capital and yet their stocks are up 10-30%.  Crude oil inventory goes up but it’s not up as much as expected and crude oil is flying. Yale university professor Robert Schilling who wrote the book in 2000 “Irrational Exuberance” and predicted the market collapse, now that we’ve had the rally is suggesting people should be back in equities in an article in Bloomberg’s, go figure.
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« Reply #23 on: May 06, 2009, 06:21:40 PM »

Bulls are still in charge until proven otherwise. 

Still a primary Bear market.

It will eventually resolve itself

A Retest of the previous lows is a given.

Anything Can Happen.
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« Reply #24 on: May 06, 2009, 06:40:01 PM »

Things today just didn’t make sense as some of the biggest banks in the United States that have been most beaten up mentioned that they need 10-30 billion dollars in additional capital and yet their stocks are up 10-30%.  Crude oil inventory goes up but it’s not up as much as expected and crude oil is flying. Yale university professor Robert Schilling who wrote the book in 2000 “Irrational Exuberance” and predicted the market collapse, now that we’ve had the rally is suggesting people should be back in equities in an article in Bloomberg’s, go figure.



Nothing makes sense anymore.

It's all hype and fear-mongering on the way down, and hype and jubilation on the way back up.  Bullcrap on every side of the story.

There is no point in trying to figure out "what to believe" anymore because it's all a load of crap... the good and the bad.  The "truth" is out there somewhere amongst people few and far between to whisper in dark places to their own conscience when no one is around to hear them... or rotting away in prison cells never to be seen again...

The only thing you can do is play the technicals.  As sidewinder likes to say (or something like it)-- the trend is still up, until it is not.

Higher highs today.

Hitting up against key resistance from Jan highs.

In my opinion (now), the smartest thing to do is to take any profits if you have them and wait on the sidelines to see if next resistance pushes things back down (should hit within a couple days).  And then wait further to see how far down it drops (higher low or lower low), and then take a position accordingly.

Second smartest thing to do (IMHO) is to be long, with a very close stop and an eye on a reversal at this pivotal resistance area, with a modest hedge to the downside.

Least smartest thing is to keep trying to short this beast before it has turned.  You know, like I've been doing for the past month.  Again, as sidewinder says -- "don't try to fight city hall"   Angry

However, every low point gets retested eventually.  It may take months, but SPX 666 will come back into play at some point.

In my opinion, if this reversal was "real" and "for good"... then 666 would have been retested within days to form a more sustainable W reversal pattern..  That would have been more "natural" and "healthy".  A V-reversal is not healthy, especially a V-bottom.  V bottoms smack of pure manipulation.  Logically there should not be enough volume to create a full V reversal at a bottom, as money is not interested in the market/security at that time (hence mass exodus sending it down in the first place).  That's why the W forms - money comes back in, gets back out, slowly confidence is built back.

But for now, the exuberance train is till riding the rails of the giddy Uptrend Line, starting back from Mar 16 after the first spike was driven in (loving the railroad analogies here... my dad would be so proud Wink).  And there's plenty of people still hopping on board once the train slows down for it's scheduled stops.  And only the engineer truly knows where the end of the line is.  Or rather, the train robbers holding the gun to his head...  Grin

Good luck out there.  And good lord, don't take my advice...
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« Reply #25 on: May 06, 2009, 06:41:18 PM »


hah... thanks a lot SW for trumping my post with like 4 lines of text to say the exact same thing... while I was typing out my long-winded nonsense!!  Grin
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« Reply #26 on: May 06, 2009, 08:41:40 PM »

FWIW I am getting sell signals on my two day studies and the dailys are toppy.
 
What does this mean?  Hmmmm.

Depending on the pending news outcome who knows.  It looks like folks have been buying the dips to me and more are getting back in the market.  Any fund manager that has been sitting this out or overly conservative must be feeling the heat to get back in by now.  So I see no indication the move is over.  I intend to buy the dips when there is no massive trend change.

 I am still selling some pinkies into this upmove, and hope to get more cash to play any failure.  If this keeps up there will be one hella shorting opportunity soon and even I may grab a bite at the often imitated but never duplicated FAZ.  Since it adjusts daily that’s the way I intend to play it though.
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« Reply #27 on: May 06, 2009, 11:30:56 PM »

Sold FAS at 11.30, after it broke through resistance at 11.53, got myself around to short FAZ at 5.30 and missed it.  That was a 12% move in 30 minutes, but then look at the action, FAS goes back up to test the highs and pass them in after hours.....there you go.  Not much of a short opportunity time frame wise and you had to hit it quick and perfect, because the longs came in on the pullback.  Pretty strong market IMO.  I will stick to my targets, but I didn't want to hold overnite kind of pressed my luck for the last week, and clearly the OA (Obama Administration) is actively leaking info and orchestrating almost ALL information flows.  See GS a couple weeks back.

I will look to buy the dip again tomorrow and shorten my holding duration.

Thought this was an interesting call....look where things are now compared to the call...

http://etfstocks.typepad.com/markets/2009/03/cyclical-bull-market-20092010-in-a-secular-bear-market-spydiaqqqq.html
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« Reply #28 on: May 07, 2009, 12:41:03 AM »

Somebody please hit me in the head with a Baseball bat and wake me up Embarrassed

I feel I am in a dream in this Market. It would not surprise me if this market run turns out to be 2008 all over again,  up towards the moon and then straight down into the Abyss again.

I am either going to miss the greatest profit possiblities (missed half already) or I am going to keep what little I have left and get back in on the dump this summer.

I sold my GG and only own FVITF, and if it makes a run over .90 again, later, it will be gone.

Patience, Patience, Patience.................I am running out of it.

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« Reply #29 on: May 07, 2009, 01:03:08 AM »

here are a couple of articles that discuss the possibility of continued upside...

http://www.greenfaucet.com/economy/why-2009-is-turning-out-to-be-a-repeat-of-1975/29882

http://www.greenfaucet.com/the-market/are-we-reliving-the-1982-scenario/49963
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