Thought Provoking

[sidewinder]

I would hardly call what George U. and Cliff High are doing with what they have termed "predictive linguistics" Science.   Entertainment maybe, but certainly not science by any stretch of the imagination.

I have been reading the "predictions" for several years now and frankly nada.   Of course with the vague language of the "predictions" George will come back after some earthquake and say see I told ya, but really it's just hit and miss and mostly miss.  Kinda like Nostradamus and "Hister" and "New City".   This is the second or third year in a row George is saying they pick up something "big" in November or so.  Anyone trading by that information deserves to lose his money. 

Anything about future events is at best a guess. 

[MetalMeister]

The Astounding Failure of the US Educational System

good read.

http://www.zerohedge.com/article/astounding-failure-us-educational-system

The Educational System Was Designed to Keep Us Docile”

[sunseeker]

http://goldstockstoday.com/2010/10/tale-of-two-cities/#more-218728

Henry II brought his bankers together in 1124. Those found guilty of debasing the coinage (an earlier form of quantitative easing) were either castrated or they had their right hands cut off. What can you say about that kind of monetary policy?

It worked. 

ATB 

[MetalMeister]

Big brother keep getting bigger...

http://finance.yahoo.com/banking-budgeting/article/111250/new-ways-bankers-are-spying-on-you

[MetalMeister]

You're making the assumption that it was in fact Muslim radicals who are to blame for 9/11... 

 

I'm still not convinced it's JUST them...   

I have seen it all leading right up to 9-11 and the crazy a hell aftermath. 

I DO have many thoughts on this subject but most I will not share here or in public due to the sensitive nature of the problem.  I would never want to give any potential criminal any ideal or compromise aviation security in any way.  I will say this though;  All the shit the average passenger must endure simply to travel is very little more than show to create the PERCEPTION that officials (read politicians and other assorted bureaucratic asswipes) are looking out for YOU.  AGAIN bullshit .... they are covering their asses and looking out for themselves. The unbelievable cost and the waste is just ... well, unbelievable. 

This machine is so large and feeds on itself to such a degree that I don't know if the bullshit could ever be stopped, even if suddenly, TPTB came to their senses.  Anyone with any cognitive reasoning ability knows what the current threat is.  It is Muslim Radicals primarily with a sprinkle of nut-job wanna-be copycats. 

Our intelligence operations are very good, but I get the feeling they get hamstrung very often with political interference. The events of 9-11 occurred mainly because no one wanted to hear what Richard Clarke was telling them at the White House.  Just one ounce of due diligence overriding political considerations could have prevented that tragic day and what a different world we would have today.  That's truly the crime of the century.   Oh, what the hell I could write a book about this and nothing would get solved.  Lookit, find them, eliminate them and leave the public out of it.  meanwhile the photo above would suffice at the airport along with issuing each passenger a .38 as they board the aircraft.  I know that's a lot of .38's required but I strongly feel that it is the duty of every law-abiding capable citizen to be armed and know how and under what circumstances to use a weapon.  It's called "what would a reasonable person do?" 

[MetalMeister]

New news, not old news...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HcliJUk0VY&feature=player_embedded#!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFPobKeSzKQ&feature=player_embedded#!

[sidewinder]

You're making the assumption that it was in fact Muslim radicals who are to blame for 9/11... 

 

I'm still not convinced it's JUST them...   

Everything we discuss here is simply speculation.  After all we are all speculators, that's what brought us together.   There are so many believable scenarios available for the choosing as to what happened in any event, that it would be impossible to know what happened unless one was actually involved and then one would only know what role they played in the event.  Of course it is possible that the actual people that flew the planes into the buildings were actually duped into their actions in the name of (insert favorite cause here).  All that aside I too, am sure of this...... we don't know and likely will never know.  That's the reality of it.  The only thing I can know for sure is the names, nationality and political/religious affiliations of those who set in motion the events of that day.  For now that is all I need to form any bias and assign any blame.  All the rest is nothing more that the speculation I mentioned.   

[sunseeker]

Sidewinder

“Does anyone really think that many people today can actually act in unison for any reason?”

http://buy-high-sell-higher.com/forum/general-discussion/precious-metals-t1018.0.html;msg14200#msg14200

Probably only when it's too late.

“A Brave New World?”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peX4dBEF0Vg&feature=player_embedded#at=299

You're blood runs red while our blood runs blue...

The reason behind that was silver......
http://sensology.blogs.com/sensational_color/2006/08/agryria_is_the_.html

The term blue blood came to be associated with the aristrocracy simply because it was not uncommon in earlier times for European nobility  to have skin that appeared to have a blue cast.  The bluish (or sometimes greenish) discoloration of their skin was often caused by a condition known as Argyria.
Argyria it the result of ingested silver particles that are not able to pass through the body being deposited under the skin.  Historically this was caused by particles from silver eating utensils being swallowed along with food or silver being taken for medicinal purposes.  Since aristocrats were the ones who could afford medicine and who enjoyed the daily privilege of eating off of silver plates, drinking from silver vessels and as the saying goes being born with "a silver spoon in their mouth" it was a condition that was more common among the upper class.

Buy physical silver (and gold). Sever all relations that you may have with the bailout banks, and move your cash elsewhere. I believe that's the best (peaceful) way to express our displeasure for what has been, is being, and will be done in the future. There has been little or no effort to find exactly who was responsible for the financial crisis and none of those people implicated has been either convicted or fined for their part in it. In that statement I include the regulatory authorities and the credit rating agencies. Justice and retribution. Not the big bonuses or the massive severance payments that we have witnessed being given to those who stepped down early from their positions.     

The good standard of living that most of of enjoy has been a result of cheap energy, and the things that we have been able to produce cheaply as a result, not as a result of banking per-see. If we don't pay big bonuses and bail out the banks they'll go elsewhere. If there are other countries that want our failed banks and failed bankers and are willing to pay the price, then let them have them.

ATB

[MetalMeister]

SS, nicely delivered, that little play.  I shall ship that around to some friends.

As far as 9/11, this boat seems to be ready to sail:

http://www.ae911truth.org/

It's obvious that WTC 7 was in free fall.

Amazing that was over 9 years ago, looking back...

[sidewinder]

You have to love Geraldo,   I like to pronounce it like Charlie Manson does  Jer-raal-doe.  
But, anything he is involve with of this nature has a tendency to get lots of hype and no action.  Need I remind you of the opening of Al Capone's hidey hole?

From what I have seen Building 7 looks exactly like a freefall and controlled demolition.  However I have stayed in a Holiday Inn Express and am not a REAL structural engineer.  

All I can say is IF spooks were involved with the downing of that building It won't go anywhere unless it is in the aftermath of a revolution or something of that nature.   And I don't even rule that out in the future.  

Notwithstanding, all the above I do believe that if I cared to, I could make a case either way.  Reality is ............. sometimes people get away with the damn-est things.  The more sensational and fabulous the more likely to rest permanently as one of histories mysteries.

Just think of all the implications and possible results of such a revelation.  Especially at such a tender time for the world and the U.S. in particular.  

So I will call you on it ..... Nothing will come of this in the end.    There I said it.  LOL

Now, back to real speculation............  Silver futs  /SI is headed down to test 27.150 ish

[MetalMeister]

Hey!  It is against the rules to talk about REAL speculation in this thread...   

You have to leave work out of it when you come in here.   

I have been following the www.ae911truth.org for a year or so now.  They seem to have gotten a real shot in the arm on a couple of levels lately.

But I think you are probably right that no one will ever be brought to justice.

Glenn Beck is against the truthers last I heard.  He poo poos it.  But a lot of tea party people are truthers.

Heck, might as well call myself a truther!

Might as well go wrestling with Jessy Ventura and Charlie Sheen!   

It is interesting though how they say the jet fuel can only burn about 1500 degrees and it takes 2900 degrees to melt steel and they found molten steel at the bottom...

You have to love Geraldo,   I like to pronounce it like Charlie Manson does  Jer-raal-doe.  

Now, back to real speculation............  Silver futs  /SI is headed down to test 27.150 ish

[sidewinder]

I don't know about Jesse but, ol Charlie might be fun to hang around with.. I mean with his penchant for good looking hookers and all.  I'm not too much interested in the drugs although no problem with good whiskey. 

To borrow a line from Jack Nickolson  "TRUTH, TRUTH, YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH".

First thing I thought about after 9-11 (after I got over the shock) was how could the fuel load on those 757's produce such a condition.  Answer:  I have no answer.  Only most of the fuel was expended in a matter of minutes following the impacts.  FWIW I knew both of the UA captains as we were hired within 2 weeks of each other and attended training at the same time. 

[MetalMeister]

That's what I have read about the fuel.  It's not like it could sit around and pool up and be a constant controlled source for very long.  The stuff had to literally splash/vaporize on impact.

Not much different than throwing a glass of gasoline on my bonfire, I would guess.  There's a big whoosh and then basically it is gone pretty quickly.

First thing I thought about after 9-11 (after I got over the shock) was how could the fuel load on those 757's produce such a condition.  Answer:  I have no answer.  Only most of the fuel was expended in a matter of minutes following the impacts.  FWIW I knew both of the UA captains as we were hired within 2 weeks of each other and attended training at the same time. 

[sidewinder]

Well, JP4 burns a little slower than gas but it won't hang around long a high temps.  I don't believe for a second the fuel had much to do with what we saw happen later. 

[sidewinder]

This was put up before by me but it is mostly about religion and demons before getting anywhere near the topic approaching the singularity thing.  So, I just took it down. 


Sorry I just don't think it that thought provoking.  Just something to start a squabble over.